‘What The Health’ Debunked by Real Doctor


Hey, it’s Mic here and today, a public service announcement: What The Health, the documentary, has officially been debunked by a doctor. Maybe his name is ZDogg, maybe he comes off more as a bro comedian than a doctor, and he might not cite any studies or anything like that, but he is a doctor nonetheless. A few days back, he posted this video on Facebook which went more or less viral there. It got over a million views in less than a week. But on YouTube, it got torn to shreds and way less views. I’m really going to try and make an effort
to not criticize the name ZDogg. I get it. He’s trying to appeal to a larger audience. His real name is Zubin Damania.
That’s hard to remember. So this isn’t going to be an ad hominem situation. I’m going to go through his main points and rebut them. And unlike him, I can’t lean on the word doctor.
I am not a doctor. So I’m going to instead use
peer-reviewed research and actual sources instead of just saying things like
“Dietary cholesterol doesn’t raise cholesterol,” and then not backing it up at all. Now before I get into the specifics, I want to mention that he claims
to not be against a vegan diet. He’s just out to fight that
despicable “one diet fits all” mentality which is allegedly so harmful. Like way more people die every year from vegans saying veganism is the only way than our leading killer, heart disease. Don’t mind that a whole food vegan diet is clinically proven to reverse heart disease. Whatever.
All right, now that you have some background, let’s cover his main objections to the movie. What exactly are you documenting in this documentary? Like the fact that you’re an idiot for most of your life and are just now realizing that life causes cancer? Like wow, like maybe this shit in the supermarket that’s highly processed is bad for you? That’s news? Now right off the bat you can see that
he’s exhibiting the backfire effect, where you have an overly negative reaction
to views that conflict with your own views. You can tell that he knows this is a vegan documentary and he is there to smear it. Here is his response when What The Health
explores the meat-carcinogen connection and uses the cigarette analogy. WTH: “I wondered if things would have been different had they known the link between diet and this terrible disease.” No, it wouldn’t have been different
because they still would have eaten shit. That’s what people do. You tell people cigarettes cause cancer,
they continue to smoke. This is actually an argument for
eliminating all health education. I can’t believe I’m actually taking this seriously, but this is a chart of smoking prevalence since the Surgeon General report connecting smoking and cancer in 1964. As you can see, smoking has dropped by about 60%. That is a direct response to health education. Imagine going back in time and telling the Surgeon General to shut up about smoking and cigarettes because people are just going to keep smoking anyway. That is the doctor you’re listening to.
That is ZDogg’s logic right now. One thing that really emphasizes
the lack of thought put into the video was when he tried to discredit Neal Barnard. Ok, hold on. How is it that Dr. Neal Barnard gets the title
“Premier Researcher and Diabetes Expert,” like what do you need to do to have that? Well as many people have already mentioned, including one of the doctors from the movie, Joel Khan, in the comments to the YouTube video actually, he has published multiple peer-reviewed studies including this 74 week trial, and also has an award-winning paper. But I’m sure he’s only ever written a book about cheese. Another thing that was pretty low or maybe
just from a lack of knowledge was was repeatedly flashing “not actual science”
over various parts of the video including the one that explains
the connection between fat and diabetes. The diet that builds up the amount of fat into the blood, I’m talking about a typical meat-based, animal-based diet, into the muscle cells of the human body. You find that they’re building up tiny particles of fat,
it’s causing insulin resistance. Maybe he just hasn’t seen them, but there are several papers on intramyocellular lipids and insulin resistance. It is actual science. But people are just going to come and see that a doctor is saying that it’s not actual science, believe them, and move on. Zdogg of course appears to be of the view that fat does not cause diabetes. It’s all sugar. But how can you explain things like
Walter Kempner’s rice diet, where he fed people rice, fruit, and table sugar
and reversed diabetes? Including a 25% of diabetic retinopathy cases, that’s diabetic blindness. And to drive the animal fat-diabetes connection home in particular, from the Adventist study, vegan populations had a 78% lower risk of diabetes. All diabetes, that is not from eating less sugar. And this is sort of where the real controversy happened, when Garth Davis explains that
it’s really hard to get fat on carbs. Carbs cannot make you fat in and of themselves. When we eat carbs, we either store it or we burn it. Eat fat? It goes straight to your fat. Your body can’t turn those carbs into fat, unless you’re really overdoing it. This guy actually take a physiology class? Like are you kidding me? Wait, carbs can’t be turned into fat? Like fat goes right into fat? No. Fat can be absolutely metabolized
into ketone bodies and used for fuel especially in the setting of a low carbohydrate diet. That is completely irrelevant for 99.9% of the
population of Earth who aren’t in ketosis. When you overload your body with carbohydrates, the liver turns it into fat and triglycerides,
and it’s stored as fat. While technically true, we need to put this
in perspective of actual pounds stored which is what people are really concerned about. From this study on novo lipogenesis, even if you were really overdoing the calories, they found that 97% of fat stored was from fat. Only about 3% was derived from carbs. To extrapolate that and put that into perspective, if somebody is a hundred pounds overweight, probably only three of those pounds are actually from carbs. Some of you may have seen that
Garth Davis actually made a response video. He had several good points in it. Right here, so ZDogg, who is now coming in as the expert, was a hospitalist. A hospitalist is someone who works in the hospital treating people that are acutely ill. They never have any outpatient setting where they’re treating patients. He has no, and I mean no background in long-term preventative maintenance of health
through diet. They put people in wards and they studied this,
and they found that when you really carb-load somebody for four days, giving them tons of carbs, a very, very, very, small percentage of that
gets turned to fat. If you radioactively label fat and eat it, it does go very fast to the fat stores. And apparently, ZDogg might bring Garth Davis
on the show for some healthy debate. We’ll see. So why is he so against these one-size-fits-all diets? One size doesn’t fit all. These guys are making statements that immediately discredit them because they’re saying “this is true for everyone.” It’s not. Everybody’s genetics are different. Yes. Everybody’s genetics are
so drastically different that while What The Health might be good for some of you rabbits, some of us are hyenas that
require large amounts of rotting flesh. No. We are all human. We are all the same species. We all have very long digestive tracts that are adapted
to eating large amounts of plant and animal fat clogs our arteries and
causes inflammation, unlike say, a lion. Yes, there are some minor genetic variations, like how the Inuits are genetically adapted to not go into ketosis, which is inconvenient for the keto narrative, But overwhelmingly, populations around the world that eat the least amount of meat
have the longest lifespans like the Okinawans. Back when they were raised
eating 97% plants and 80% carbohydrates from whole sweet potatoes
and other whole foods They were the longest-living population on Earth. But since they became a pork producer and
started eating more of a Western diet, their health has suffered.
Now the longest-living population on Earth is the Adventist vegetarians, many of which are vegan. At the same time, those with the
highest animal product consumption have the lowest life expectancies,
like sadly the Inuit populations. And we see that low-carb diets that are high in animal products increase all-cause mortality according to this meta-analysis. I want to explore just for a second that maybe
a vegan diet is a one-size-fits-all diet by looking at the case of Esselstyn’s study where he put 200 people with
advanced cardiovascular disease on a whole food vegan diet. The ones who went off the diet had about
a 60% chance of adverse effects like heart attack and stroke over the next 12 years. But of the 177 people that stuck with the diet they had a 0.6%, a 100 times lower
rate of adverse events. No, it’s not like a third of them were
so “genetically different” that they ended up getting an increased risk of stroke from that severe lack of animal protein. In this case, it quite literally is a one-size-fits-all diet
in terms of our leading killer. Maybe not emotionally one-size-fits-all,
but physiologically? Yes. The next point is like, the biggest bro science
thorn in my side in existence. Here it is. Dietary cholesterol is not associated
with coronary artery disease. Period. I have a somewhat older video on this topic, but I have another video coming out soon
about the low-carb narrative which relies on industry funded science and just poorly, purposefully designed studies
to ignore reality. But really quickly, this study shows the direct effect on your blood cholesterol after eating cholesterol. Large amount of cholesterol, bam. Big spike. No cholesterol, no spike. And as this study of 350,000 men found, higher cholesterol has a direct relationship with premature death from coronary heart disease. But what about all those studies showing that eating a couple more eggs worth of cholesterol
doesn’t actually raise cholesterol? This is the result of the cholesterol plateau from studying a sick population that all has high cholesterol. And more bluntly, the main risk of death for
these people is heart disease. But as this chart illustrates, going from no cholesterol consumption to
even small amounts of cholesterol can skyrocket your levels. But if you are already eating a lot of cholesterol,
a couple eggs won’t change anything. To put this in more simple terms, now to Hippie Science Bro. Hola, bromo esta?
All right, let’s begin the presentation. Let’s say that you’ve already smoked four joints. if you’re going to add two joints to that, you will go from high as balls right to high as balls. But if you’re going to smoke the same two joints
from being stone cold sober, you will go from stone cold sober to pretty dang high. That’s bro science. Finally, if dietary cholesterol really doesn’t
raise cholesterol, how come removing it lowers it so effectively? If you look at the studies of people going vegan, you see that lowering cholesterol every time. And then in all the population studies across the board vegans have way lower ideal levels of cholesterol. And even if you want to latch onto
that low-carb narrative, they blame inflammation instead of cholesterol. Well, studies where they put people on a vegan diet you see their inflammation markers
lower by about a third. And I love how he completely dismisses the toxins thing. Just, nope. Oh, Michelle. You use the t-word. Toxins. I get that people throw around the word “toxins” a lot, but if there’s one source that a level-headed person should worry about, it’s animal fat.
Because as this study mentioned, 95% of persistent organic pollutants
for example, one type of toxin, comes from animal fat. He even mocks the toxins in breast milk part. Imagine as the fetus is developing,
introducing these very harmful toxins. Oh my God, like, There are toxins in the meat and they’re going to get in my booby milk, and the baby’s going to get toxified. PCBs are one type of persistent organic pollutant and from the journal Pediatrics, quote: And to tie things together here the Inuits,
who have a very high animal fat consumption, also have the highest levels of PCBs in their breast milk. But telling people not to be concerned
about these things just has nothing to do with your anti one-size-fits-all diet. So what’s the deal? One thing that bothers me is that for a doctor, is that he has this whole “everything will be fine” attitude
throughout the video. Like, “Oh, watch me eat carcinogens.
Watch me eat this processed meat.” WTH: “Not only through their percentages in every single restaurant. We found them in every single chicken sample.”
-That’s horrible. Just keep eating all the cholesterol. You’re not going to get an increased
risk of heart disease. Well, guess what?
Heart disease and cancer are our two leading killers, so it’s not fine. This next point makes me most disappointed of all. He edits out the part where Milton Mills says that the majority of African Americans are lactose intolerant, and just cuts to the part where he says that the government recommending dairy is then institutionalized racism, and then they just laugh at him and
say that he’s so crazy. Government is telling me as an African American
to eat food that’s going to make me ill for no health benefit so that it will benefit dairy farmers. That’s a form of institutionalized racism. [laughter] People who are crazy, who are behaving
in an insane emotional way around this. It’s really not cool. It’s really low. And it’s really a theme where he
essentially edits out the fact and then he takes it the shock statement
that is backed up by the fact, and then just makes the whole thing seem crazy. And it’s all part of the “Hey, don’t even watch the movie!” thing. “Don’t even learn,” which is pretty not cool, considering people should be able to
decide for themselves And I think a part that bothers me about the video is
in the follow-up he it makes it clear that he thinks the
video went viral really because of his amazing ability to bust fallacies. No, the video went viral because we have millions of people who have watched What The Health and they’re looking for somebody
with any vague level of credibility to tell them that they can continue business as usual. Keep eating animal products,
keep eating their unhealthy diet, because this vegan diet isn’t
actually going to help them. People are really just looking to hear
good news about their bad habits. And you don’t need to be showing scientific literature
or peer-reviewed studies, anything like that, to confirm people’s biases. But in the end, I want to give ZDogg a little bit of slack here in the sense that I don’t think he’s actually
seen all this research on a plant-based diet. He doesn’t know that intramyocellular lipids
are actually science. He isn’t aware that vegan populations
have 78% lower risk of diabetes, ideal levels of cholesterol, and I didn’t even mention normal BMI on average. You know, I doubt he’s seen these interventionary trials showing that a whole food vegan diet
dramatically reverses heart disease. He probably hasn’t seen the numbers
on de novo lipogenesis, or maybe even all these studies on all-cause mortality being increased on low-carb diets. As much as ZDogg is going to hate this statement, a vegan diet is a physiologically one-size-fits-all diet. It can help all these people.
But telling them to not watch the video, telling them that it’s all fake and not actual science and just these crazy doctors is just irresponsible as a doctor. You’re passing up a major opportunity
to heal chronic diseases and I don’t see him going and attacking these low-carb movies because they’re one-size-fits-all,
and that’s pretty telling. All right, that’s it for today. I hope you liked the video.
Feel free to let me know down below what you thought and like and subscribe if you haven’t already. Okay. See you next time.

100 thoughts on “‘What The Health’ Debunked by Real Doctor

  1. Some of you have noticed my dyslexic mistake. In my clarification I say a range of 90-97% of fat was from carbs, no it was indeed 90-97% of fat from FAT. I was just trying to be transparent about the range observed ok different women. Too bad Youtube no longer allows notes on videos. This topic is really interesting and I suggest this extended reading: http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/74/6/707.full 📖 📖 📖

  2. A dr who doesn't site any research and posing as if he is a nutrition expert – which dr's are not – but apparently dr's are experts in all arenas…NOT

  3. Great videos mic keep them up! You do your research thoroughly even to prove actual facts and debunk the so called professionals in splendid fassion. I'd love to see you on a podcast and debate these people that cling on to these false facts with a computer close by and nut it out with a healthy debate with actual proof to show it to them so they can't possibly argue against it.

  4. Meat is good. Sugar is bad. Eggs are good. THE END. Everyone who agrees with that documentary is plain stupid, honestly, how can you agree with that shit?

  5. Nevermind the fact that the third leading cause of death stems from the branch of medicine for which ZDogg belongs… allopathy. Now this dude, DESERVES to be highly criticized.

  6. i eat a lot of fat in my diet from avocados, nuts, nutbutters, chiaseeds, flaxseeds, olive oil etc and i am not fat, if the fat i ate was stored directly in fat cells i wouldnt be at the weight i am. im not extremly lean or skinny, just normal healthy probably a bit on the skinnier side of average. what about the fact the fat is exxential for getting fat soluble vitamins etc… you can label fats as bad, and it seems to me that this is what is happening here (partly of course, about minute 7:45. correct me if im wrong but healthy fats are VERY important in a diet and our bodies need them for functioning correctly…. so i don't see where healthy fats are bad?

  7. the totally unempathetic way he was treating the woman speaking about POPs is so disgusting. i cannot believe this joker is a fucking doctor. walking proof that degree doesnt make a GOOD doctor.

  8. Wow. I must admit hearing the word "vegan" always had a negative connotation to me, but after seeing this documentary I completely changed my way of thinking and am more open to the vegan lifestyle. I could barely even hear this doctor speak without cringing. Sad that many people will simply listen to him and keep on living an unhealthy lifestyle. Makes me realize you have to educate yourself from credible sources!!!

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  10. Food and clothing is a common thread amongst every civilization on the face of the planet. You could name all kinds and manners of dress throughout the vast history of civilization's. Can you name one vegan civilization?… I mean if it truly does produce a healthier more viable population it should be an easy answer. Due to their increased survivability.

  11. "Proper diet… medicine is of no need. Improper diet… medicine is of no use."
    Ancient Indian proverb

  12. Mic, Please respond to gojiman here
    https://youtu.be/wD9Gt9Q9cEM
    4:36 "what the health and cowspiracy should not be promoted based on multiple inaccuracies and also misrepresentations of science. We often accuse carnivore diets of such propaganda tactics so we have to call out these documentaries of what they are."

  13. Most physicians, MD's and specialists in orthodox medicine complete approximately seven hours of dietary and health based learning. Dont get your heath and longevity education from a PhD or MD.

  14. I hope you die. You are not a doctor nor will you ever be and you’re still going to get cancer/heart disease and your little veggies will not save you from anything. Veggies are AMAZING but you are just a flat out liar just to make people be like you. You are a narcissist. Happy cancer asswipe

  15. If I found out my doctor was making videos like that, I'd immediately switch doctors. What a quack!
    Great video, Mic!

  16. 5:00 that's hard to believe. I ate thousands of calories of fat a day and lost weight. I'm positive that eating less carbs and more fat is beneficial for weight loss. if it's healthy is a different story

  17. ZdoggMD was probably paid by meat or milk Industry or even Heart association. Those Industries were exposed in the Documentary.

  18. Who on earth would take advice from such a total prick as ZDogg (I mean, only a total prick would use that name). He’s behaving like a 5-year-old who just had his favourite toy snatched in the playground. 🙄

  19. The reason he didnt site studies was because he didnt even need to that doc was literally fake science absolute lies about what causes diabetes lol it was another vegan propaganda piece to get you off meat lol

  20. I can’t stop watching your videos! I love all of the research that you include. You are changing peoples lives!! Thank you.

  21. It feels like experiments over focus on finding conclusions rather than generating results to our questions.

  22. I'm vegan because of 'What the Health' – it's nearly two years now. I'm so glad I watched it out of boredom on Netflix. It changed my life!

  23. Anyone here has reversed their morning high blood sugar? I am a man with a thin body, definitely not on the way to become type 2 but more like type 1.5 (LADA) I have been diagnosed as impaired fasting glycemia.
    I'd like to get some insight. Thanks in advance

  24. The title of this video reinforces the "Familiarity Backfire effect" and would make those who think "What The Health" has been debunked by a real doctor become even more convinced of it, even if they watch your video. Please take a look at this Debunking handbook, which has useful tips on how not to fall into such traps:
    https://skepticalscience.com/docs/Debunking_Handbook.pdf

  25. After watching “What the Health” me and my sisterNlaw decided to go vegan but we forgot we went vegan the next day and decided that’s not going to happen sooooo we are just going to start by limiting our meat intake and adding more plant based foods to our diets. 😊

  26. A Stethoscope thats ROSE GOLD 🤷🏽‍♂️💆🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️WTF? Everyone missed that Its ROSE GOLD… SMFH Im done! What a #Tool. Cause thats gonna make people believe im a real credited doctor.

    Is he a real doctor? One of the docs from the docu that replied to his stupidity basically called him a care taker.

  27. Just became vegan due to colon scare. (I don’t know if I have it still, colonoscopy Friday) but your videos have been so helpful to me, thank you for everything you do, you are so valuable.

  28. Dude , that "vegan diet" really did hit you hard ,didn't it. Was it the smokable "diet" or backed "goods" ? One thing is for sure, your supplier is a keeper.

  29. I dont know this doctor but i already cant stand him. I came here hoping to be able to find justification for continuing to eat meat (after watching what the health) but i just feel pissed off about it lol. Maybe its time i changed my diet.

  30. The "Save yourself an hour and a half and watch a real doctor debunk it" temptation from ZDogg on his video description is one of many dirty ways he's trying to dismiss the points of the film – avoids his audience going into it informed.
    Seeing that in the description on his 'debunking' video while I was searching for "What the health" actually pushed me harder to watch the film before I checked out his debunking. Suggesting that your audience avoid checking the SOURCE should throw up a bunch of red flags for anyone watching.

  31. How in the f*** would any rational adult listening to ‘ ZDogg’ believe anything that comes out his mouth? Sadly, there are those out there that do.

  32. Balanced diet is important.

    And I'm still eating meat because iron is much more available in meat than in vegetable products.

  33. Everything I wrote is a personal and public experience: I was omnivore and I loved dairy prodicts especially and a big anti-veganism. I have crohn's disease so I did alot of researches about how to eat healthy and since I'm vegan (I also do sport and still learning how to do it right), my doctor said that he's happy to see improvement. Indeed, he was esitating a little when I told him that I went vegan and he directed me to a nutritionist.
    Just know that plant based lifestyle can be harmful when you don't do it correctly, but when you eat balanced and from everything (is also about some combinations which can help absorb nutritive compounds or deteriorate and even produce toxins), you can enjoy the healthiest lifestyle possible. (don't forget that prior to the paleolithic era, the human was a vegetarian, but at some point, the lack of fruits and other plants made him choose hunting, then he also left the trees, like we all know that allready, so technically animal protein is heavier and does not match our body, but providing energy for the next 2-6 hours, but after that, the body will be even more tired after a long work of digesting lefts of vitamines and free radicals from the tissues and other harmful proteins). So, in order to keep all those crapy animal food and drug industries, "a real doctor" (Ain't say that he rights in some points, of course when you eat too much carbs or combinations of carbs which are the worst, but…) will always "debunk" 40 years and 300 paperworks and registrations on mise and anout 60 thousand people about how food can affect our health and how to do it right and why those researches aren't published or published but lack in promotion, because of the same interests and profits. And when you show the doctor that you have some knowledge you'll see that he's esitating or upset, because they know about the consequences if more and more people find out the truth about their industries and the mafiothic relation between the food and the medical industry. They only using the fact that people are too lazy or can't do researches.

  34. Imagine being so blinded by ideology that you have to call people names to discredit their facts like most of the ignoramus comments here.

  35. I stopped watching the documentary after the 1 egg= 5 cigarettes comment. Then I started it back again and cut it off for good after the “sugar doesn’t cause diabetes”. The sugar doesn’t cause diabetes comment is not even up for debate, it’s basic science that everyone knows. At some point you just have to use common sense and decipher what’s logical and what’s made up. For the record I was raised in a vegetarian and meat lover household. Horrible documentary full of lies.

  36. Sad they pick on vegan diet instead of processed foods. But honestly, I think I can get fat with rice and potatoes. They seem to be my trigger foods in addition to addiction.

  37. One of my biggest regrets in life was watching What The Health just a week ago. I’m trying to go vegan now. But still looking for stores in my area to source some of my goods which are not too expensive. My cholesterol levels are above normal and I’m hoping for an improvement with being vegan.

  38. I am a medical doctor with a PhD in epidemiology. I work in a hospital. My secret plan is to inform all doctors treating chronically ill patients about lifestyle medicine (including diet). After all, drugs dont treat the causes of chronic disease and lifestyle medicine is the only one among medical specialties that addresses the actual cause. Trust me, my mission is not at all easy, but not entirely impossible. I am on it. Its just a bit slow, because I have other things to do. If I start talking about diet, they think I am talking about disease prevention. They also think patients cannot change or that they are at irreversible point of their disease progress. All wrong. Also, for now … it is very very lonely. And for now, none of these doctors actually has time, knowledge or interest to manage a behavioural change in a patient. But our times are coming. FYI, I disliked What the Health, because of insufficient fact check (I am a perfectionist, but not just that, also a scientist) that dented the credibility of the documentary for the wrong reasons.

  39. I'm sure it's possible when milk was first pushed by the government it could have been partly racist, but those administration's are long gone… And the government to still push milk probably isn't racist just outdated information.

  40. At least this real doctor knows his physiology unlike you and the quacks in What the health. Carbs don't make you fat, wtf? Any first year medical student can tell you about lipogenesis, makes you wonder about any of the other claims made by that quack

  41. Dietitians, people, those are the people who has a B.Sc and studies 5 years in college about the human body, food and nutrition. Those are the people who you should look about diet related doubts. Not doctors. Doctors knows the human body, yes. But dietitians actually knows the interaction between food and body. That's their job. That's all I have to say.

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